Dwarf Cichlid Books

[k0b0i]

Hey,

Just wondering what other books people have or have seen that collates extensive details on our friends, the dwarf cichlid.

I recently got a copy of the DATZ SA dwarf cichlid book and thought it was pretty good. Just wanted to know what other helpful books there are on the market.

Cheers,
Kev

P.S. Not limiting this to just Apistos

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List of books so far:

title: South American Dwarf Cichlids
author(s): Dieter Bork, Hans J. Mayland
published: 1997

title: Aqualog Extra – The Latest Apistogramma
author: Dieter Bork
published: 1996

title: DATZ SA dwarf cichlid book
author(s): Rainer Stawikowski, Ingo Koslowski, Volker Bohnet
published: 2005

title: Baensch/Mergus Cichlid Atlas, Vol. I
author(s): Uwe Romer
published: 2001

title: Baensch/Mergus Cichlid Atlas, Vol. II
author(s): Uwe Romer
published: 2006?

[Th0mas]

Other books include Aqualog and Romer's Atlas are must have.

Thomas.

[k0b0i]

Is the Aqualog just eye candy?

I haven't seen one myself but been told they generally just contain images and not so much helpful info??

[Th0mas]

That's pretty much spot on - pictures after pictures. Really good quality but lacks technical information.

[Palpatine]

The Baensch book is pretty good. Mostly apistos though.

[awth]

The Baensch book is pretty good. Mostly apistos though.

X2..... some of them are too rare to find!

[apisto-nut]

try this one "south american dwarf cichlids"
by Hans J Mayland and Dieter Bork
pub. by Verlag A.C.S Glaser Germany

ISBN 3-931 70229-4

information on apistogramma , crenicara and micrgeophagus
good maps on distribution
good information on habitat ,coloration,maintenance in the aquarium and reproduction

[Ben]

The Baensch book is pretty good. Mostly apistos though.

I just bought this book, its on its way.

I will do a little review after i get it.

[parkap]

The Baensch book is pretty good. Mostly apistos though.

I just bought this book, its on its way.

I will do a little review after i get it.

Is that the Romer's Atlas? Where'd you get it, they were as rare as hen's teeth when i got mine a few months ago?

p.

[Sime76]

Romer's Atlas is very good but a bit old now, but definitely worth having. There is also a new updated version coming out, I think middle to late next year. The Aqualog South american Cichlids 2 is very similar to the DATS book.

The book - "south american dwarf cichlids"
by Hans J Mayland and Dieter Bork
pub. by Verlag A.C.S Glaser Germany
that apisto-nut mentioned is a good little book, not as big or as detailed as Romer's Atlas though.

You should be able to find some info on these books on amazon.

[Ben]

Well well well!

If you apisto nuts dont own a copy of the Mergus Cichlid Atlas vol 1 then you are crazy!

This book is stunning! Over 1300 pages packed full of excellent infomation and stunning Photo's!

This book gets bens 10/10 score!

No point doing a big review as you should already own this book or be buying it after you read this!

[wickedglass]

oh good to hear, I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, I lucked out and got it for $49, but the wait is killing me ... meh

[Merrilyn]

Ben where did you get the book from?

[Noddy65]

Yep...I want to know where to get it as well..
Mike

[wickedglass]

ebay usually has a copy or two up for grabs

[Ben]

I bought my copy from ebay.
$65

[Nathan]

hmm cant find any copies less then $75 :(

[k0b0i]

Can we sticky this at all?

[Th0mas]

$75 is a bargain - I paid $80 for mine back in 01 (think that's when it first landed in Australia) through a private bulk buy arrangement.

Thomas.

[Sime76]

Hey,


title: Cichlid Atlas 1
author(s): Uwe Romer
published: 1998

title: Baensch/Mergus Cichlid Atlas, Vol. 1
author(s): Mergus Verlag
published: 2001

These are one in the same aren't they??

[Th0mas]

Yep, have the same question as well.

[fishgeek]

i believe yes

mergus is the press agaent
baensch the publish
uwe romer the author
ciclid atlas 1 the title

also apparently the second book is at publisher and advance orders have been advised in europe from now
prehaps some that are keen may try that steve simpson boks etc

second run of volume one should be printed again shortly after this

andrew

[Sime76]

ooo good work Fishgeek! Just checked out Steven Simpson Books. I got my Datz book from them, they are pretty good.


http://www.stevensimpsonbooks.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=4037&keyword=cichlid&searchby=keyword&offset=0&fs=1&CLSN_1065=11647877561065eb066d63bc02efec67

[k0b0i]

edited.

Is that right now?

[k0b0i]

added vol II to the list aswell.

[Nathan]

yeah but then theres $10 shipping so $85, i contacted ASA an they said they should be able to get it in, so im hanging out for them to get back to me with prices.

[wickedglass]

oh man, the baensch cichlid atlas is the shizzle! It arrived yesterday and it's been so difficult to put down.
I haven't ever seen anything written that is so specific. It has all the background of native ecology etc. pictures and pictures and pictures of different phases, states and signals.
I could rave on about it, but I won't, this one's a definite must-have for novice and seasoned dwarf-nut alike!!!

get a copy if you can!

[Th0mas]

Volume 2 of Romers is becoming available - at last!

Uwe Romer's Cichlid Atlas Volume 2
9783882440416
2007. 19cm. Pp.1320. 1280 colour photos, 400 figures, numerous diagrams & tables, 125 maps. Hardbound. Presents a completely updated key for the identification of the species and subspecies of the South American dwarf cichlid genus Apistogramma. Several new species introduced recently to the aquarium hobby are presented here for the first time and the book offers both the hobbyist and the scientist a valuable pictorial reference with a wealth of supplementary information. Delivery January 2007.

Price: 28.99 GBP

Shipping (priority): 8.5 GBP

http://www.aquariumfarm.com/phpBB2/files/004275_136_161.jpg

Anyone interested for a bulk order?

Thomas.

[Merrilyn]

Yep

[*Chris*]

you bet one for me too

[Nathan]

i maybe interested aswel

[parkap]

Hi Th0mas,

Count me in.

But the book doesn't ship until jan 2007.

p.

[Th0mas]

Well that gives us a bit of time to get organise.

I don't know where to order it (the above was taken from another oversea forum), will need to look around. Does anyone know more?

Thomas.

[Sime76]

That info is from the Steven Simpson Books site - the link I posted above.

They do ship over here, I got my Datz book from them, I think the shipping cost was ok and the packing was top notch. He's actually a member on this forum!

[Kingkat]

Thomas, I definitely want one of these books. Just let me know and I will forward you the money. Do you know if there is an equivalent book for Geophogus?
Cheers,
David.

[Ben]

Count me in!

[Robdog]

I'm in!

[Robdog]

Does volume 2 replace volume 1 as in it has all the same info PLUS newly discovered fish or is it totally new and updated?

[Th0mas]

According to people from apistogramma.com it is suppose to be a totally new one.

[Proteus]

ASA will have the Cichlid Atlas I as a sale item for December.

37.49GBP = $93.16AUD

ASA price will be around $79.95

Cichlid Atlas II will be the same price but publishing has been delayed and nobody will have it until January or February next year at the earliest

:wink:

[Noddy65]

Oh dear...Ill buy in this one as well no doubt...
Mike

[Th0mas]

Now this is going to be easy then - ASA is going to make it available.

Unless someone has an account with Pets Pacific (Australian distributor), otherwise this will be the best option.

Another thumb up for ASA :thumb

Thomas.

[Ben]

Unless someone has an account with Pets Pacific (Australian distributor), otherwise this will be the best option.


hmmmmmm........

[Robdog]

Literally just received my copy of the Romer Atlas. It isn't even out of the packaging yet and I love it!

[Th0mas]

Cichlid Atlas II will be the same price but publishing has been delayed and nobody will have it until January or February next year at the earliest

:wink:

Just noted someone has just got a copy here (am in Hong Kong at the moment) now. Any news ASA??

Thomas.

[Proteus]

There was a pre-print run done (prob less than 100 copies) just over a month ago, aside from that nothing available from the printers/suppliers

[Th0mas]

I see - so it is not the official print. Will try to hunt one down from one of the owner for a peek.....

Thomas.

[Proteus]

Not that I am aware of unless there has been an update to the situation in the past 2 weeks

[fishgeek]

blue blue on apisogramma.com has a copy, he says that it has come straight from the printers in singapore , rather than via the distributors so was with him quicker?
thats how i took it anyway
he say's this is because he has a relationship with one of the ditributors so they have done him a favour

andrew

[Proteus]

That makes sense...

It should not be long then before they are stocked by all the major suppliers then.

[Th0mas]

Yep - blueblue is located in Hong Kong and he has posted a few sample pages of the book on the local forum.

Still waiting for his response in getting a browse of the book.

Thomas.

[flaggy]

any update on this topic? will ASA stock this book soon?

[Kingkat]

Proteus, Any news on this book?
Cheers,
David.

[Palpatine]

I've seen it on ebay fairly cheaply, will have to pick it up soon.

If you havent seen the rest of the baensch series as well you should all be ashamed.

[hotrowe]

Hi.
I have a spare copy of Romer ie Baensch Cichlid Atlas Volume1. $60 pick up or plus postage. Cheers Graham.

[Th0mas]

Would you happen to have a spare copy of volume 2?

[ASA]

Mergus Cichlid Atlas Volume 2

You want one, well we have a couple.

Until we have good stock levels they will only appear here:

HERE (http://www.aquaauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=103777)

:D

[Th0mas]

If I knew this is going to be so difficult to get here, I should have sent a few copies back when I was over in Hong Kong last Christmas.

Buggered.......

[ASA]

We will have a good stock level of Cichlid Atlas 2's within the next couple of weeks (already have a few copies which are on hold or have been sold).

For those that ar interested refer to this post: http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12057