Update...

[shayesmommy]

i had posted previously about a sick discus.
read hear its long.
http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7920
he has his color and hes not eating yet that i noticed.
i got one more dose of metro been following it too a tee.
well he does look alot better except i see some slimy stuff coming off the poor guy.
could he have had something and these are the final stages?
i really like to know.
im going to keep him in for at least another week. and keep 2 water changes daily.
but is there really anything else i can do.
i dont think the vet will give me anymore metro as they said i might need to go to a specialist. pff.
but i can pick some up in 5 days.
will he be ok

[sammigold]

Maybe its his slime coat...???

I am not sure whether you can use salt whilst dosing with metro but If you can that is probably the best thing to help with slime coat repair...

I am sure someone with more experience will be able to advise.....

sorry I cant be of more help.... good luck

[fishgeek]

check your water parameters especially pH , increased mucous production on the skin can simply be due to water issue and your medication may have altered some paramters

after that a fresh mount of the slime to check for parasites or bacteria is indicated , in my experience metronidazol is not a useful antibiotic for external bacterial infections, i realise this was not your primary problem

possibilty's for external oragnism range from costia.,ich,chilodonella,flukes and some protozoan(susceptible to metro so not likely in your case)


first port of call for me would be water changes

best of luck
andrew

[shayesmommy]

i change almost all the water twice a day?
so maybe it just his slime coat. when im done the doseing tongiht i could change alot of the water and add a bit of salt and do constant waterchanges.
i just dont want to screw up the doseing.
ill check the water now and report back because i just used old tank water and it was perfect.
i havent seen any outside signs either. he looks good. hes not swimming around much as we was when i first put him in. so i figured it was the metro.
i will get back thanks for the help. just dont want something else happening.

[shayesmommy]

alright i think these are bad numbers for water.
but remember the tank wasnt cycled.
i took a sponge filter from a cycled tank and added all tank water at first.
been doing 40-50% water changes every 12 hours.
Ph. is about 6.8 but under 7. whereas its usually steady at 6.8.
Nitrite is about 0.3 just a change of color from what it should be just as everything else except ammonia.
amonia is about 0.3-0.6
Nitrate. is at about 0.7.
this test was just done and i did a water change before. i just took water and put it in a cup.
how long should i wait to test the water again?
i know this is bad. so i will wait until as long as i can before doing another change to finish the last dose.
then i will take out all the water i can and keep doing that for the next few days while i add salt or anything else you reccomend.
i have prazi and levamisole in food form but he wont eat.
and the only othe thing i have is melafix and pimafix.
until next weekend where im going to stock up on whatever i can get like metro, prazi, levamisole i will have to ask u guy where else i can get it besides a vet and a pet store cause neither have heard of it.

[fishgeek]

If you are changing the water so frequently where do you think the ammonia is coming from
have you tested your water source ?

andrew

[shayesmommy]

no dont have that problem in any of my other 3 tanks. and all the water comes from the same place?
i test all the other tanks at least once a week.
i thought it was just because it was cycling?
and either way do you really think its the cause of his slime stuff?
he follows me around the kitchen again. which he hasnt done for a while
like i said im willing to do water cahnges like 3 times a day if i have to .
or more.
thank you for your help.
i forgot to say it before
Jen
i was watching my sick discus? and the water has lots of white stuff for his skin and meds. but i saw a few white things like jumpy in the water? could it be my eyes or maybe its ich?

[G-1000]

Is it possible to provide some pictures?

For the record - yes you can dose metro and rock salt in the water at the same time.

Without a picture it will be difficult to help. You may benefit from a double dose of water ager though.

G

[shayesmommy]

of his skin peeling?
sure if its still like that when i go to get it.
k.ill try thanks

[shayesmommy]

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[shayesmommy]

ok so i followed everything i said and you guys said.
Im not sure whats wrong. out of all 10 discus only this one has had any problems.
this is the update. good color yesterday. Not eating. white poop.
today dark as hell and this...
his color is now back.
should i double dose metro?
i love this guy and hes simply a fighter. so please please help me save him.
exact does of metro please. last time i dose 250 per 10 gallons.
and water changes?
same or different
i have aquarium solutions metro +.
thank you in advance thank you from before.

[G-1000]

You have a noticeable swelling round the belly of that fish - it makes me think it is constipated, has LOTS of worms or some sort of internal tumour.

Up the metro to 400mg instead of 250mg.

For something so advanced you would probably be better off using tetracylcine (beware of damage to biofilter with it tho).

G

[shayesmommy]

tetracylcine? im not concerned about anything but this fish. and i have no clue what that is.
and i am double doseing now.
soaking food with metro and garlic gaurd and i think the
lump is because hes get to skinny from not eating.
ive been watching the food so i know he is not eating.
i will try peas but it doesnt help when hes not eating.
so if what about aquarium salt shouldnt that help.
any advice please

[shayesmommy]

so i changed metro to seachem metro my petstore got some in the other day. and ive been feeding and adding salts and doing 2 waterchanges daily.
and yesterday i left some food in the tank came home to find it was gone. and again last night.
hes still dark but thats good news. just thought i would share.

[sammigold]

Glad to hear there is an improvement!!!! good luck hope he keeps improving.... Eating is a good sign!

[shayesmommy]

thanks.
tonight when i went to run out i grabbed a flashlight.
his eyes are red again and his color is almost back. im so excited.
thanks for all your guy's help

[RichVic]

Hey Jen, been off-forum for a couple of weeks with busy-ness at work, sorry to read your thread but Good news by the weekend - Hows things now?
Good luck Vicki