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Crocky
Fri Jun 30, 2006, 11:44 AM
Hi all got sick of the pairs eating there egg only hours before hatching so i put some mesh over the eggs.The have moved the to the pot and also have fostered some ss/red turk wrigglers to them.2/3 of the wrigglers belong to the pb/al pair.
Hope you like.

Brad.c

Discus 41
Fri Jun 30, 2006, 12:50 PM
hey brad
nice clear photo's of the wrigglers,keep us posted on the success rate of the fostering program
P.S. i say lets see more pic's keep em coming

marg
Fri Jun 30, 2006, 02:38 PM
Hi Brad,

Congratulations once again, and what a beaut spawn!!

Marg.

Dave76
Fri Jun 30, 2006, 03:58 PM
Well done Brad; looking great.

Need to bottle up your water and start selling it I think :D What are your water parameters out that way ?

Cheers

Dave

marg
Fri Jun 30, 2006, 07:13 PM
Dave,

Someone told me that they don't put Fluoride in the water at Wangaratta - maybe that is the secret?

Brad's really dedicated to his Fish though and puts a lot of time and effort into them, I think that that's most probably the secret.

Marg.

G-1000
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 12:28 AM
Great looking spawn there Brad !

Nice work :)

I think the secret is that water soluble viagra he puts in the tank water. Breeding season all year round !

G

marg
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 04:50 AM
Well he's definately doing something right. Keep it up Brad, and more pics!!!

Marg.

nicholas76
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 04:58 AM
I dont know of any other "small time" hobbyists in Vic that have Discus on a production line like Crocky!!!
:D

samir
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 06:13 AM
i don't know of any Australia wide. It has to be him, it can't only be the water or the stuff he adds to it (date r@pe drug for the females and beer baths for the males) hehehe :lol: :lol: :lol: .
Brad how many albinos do you expect from the lot ???

nicholas76
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 06:25 AM
i think its partly got to do with the fact that Brads water supply is free from fluoride.

and most of our discus come from water that has non of that stuff!!!!

Ben
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 02:21 PM
Brad, concider all of them sold !!!!

the_oracle
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 08:59 PM
Hey Brad,
Congrats on your spawn and hope everything turn out just right. Any updates and pics of the wrigglers?


Sanie.

mistakes r crucial
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 10:05 PM
I might have to send my Albino pair down to you Crocky. Two small spawns and then nothing for the last 2-3 months! Congrats on a great looking spawn.
MAC

Crocky
Sat Jul 01, 2006, 11:14 PM
A quick update,wrigglers are starting to freeswim,the pair are still catching them and spitting back on the nest.Some have attached to the p/b and a few are also on the albino's back which I thought wouldn't happen.
Wang water has no Flouride but they use Chlorine which I thought might be a at low dose,but I understand it's not, no different to what cities are.
I don't age my water,dont use chlorine remover,I just use a spray trigger on my hose and put it on the mist setting ( takes twice as long).Maybe that the secret.
Brad

marg
Sun Jul 02, 2006, 12:44 AM
Right, next water change - mist setting - lets' see if that works :?: :D :D , says me.

Great to hear they are progressing nicely Brad.

Marg.

Discus 41
Sun Jul 02, 2006, 02:02 AM
i think we are all going to hit bunnings for a nozzle with a sprayer mist setting for our water changes,oh yeah and some form of fluride remover great stuff keep us all posted on the progress

yeah that nozzle idea is unique,, you did mention it to me once before brad! perhaps i should have tried it hmmm.

Brad is the water heated?

in relation to the fluride remover, I dont think its possible,,:(

Crocky
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 08:35 AM
update pics for those who are interested.
24 hour free swimming.
Brad

G-1000
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 09:44 AM
How many albino/pb are free-swimming ?

G

Crocky
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 12:25 PM
Around 100 I would say,most are on the male pb's back.I couldn't find pic that show them clearly.
Brad

OscarManAlpha
Mon Jul 03, 2006, 02:23 PM
Nice :D

Can't wait for more pics :D

Cheers,

Mark

G-1000
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 01:22 AM
100?

Oh my goodness.

Crocky - please tell me you can ship them to Sydney ????

hehe

G

Dee
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 04:18 AM
Heya Crocky,

Great work mate :thumb

Will be interesting to see what the resulting fry from this pairing look like. Do you plan on growing out select fry and crossing them with each other or back with the albino parent ? If so, I think you will have some great looking Albino's in the future.

Top work, keep it up mate.

Cheers,

Dee :D

G-1000
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 04:22 AM
Dee,

I have seen similar crosses before. PB is a dominant gene and 75% of offspring look PB/ PB derivative. The remaining 25% are usually turk-like with massive peppering.

In this case I reckon the offspring should be bred back to one another - albino PB are like nothing else.

G

Crocky
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 06:17 AM
Thanks for the great comments all.
Hey G got any links on these pb/albino's.
D your got in one,Albino babies every where,that the dream.

Brad

Dee
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 06:41 AM
Hey G got any links on these pb/albino's.

I was gonna ask the exact same question Crocky :)

I have seen on the asian based Discus forums, many of the new forms of albino's ... ie:

Albino Carnations (turq based)
Albino Blue Diamonds
Albino RGD's

Not to mention all the Albino Turq's, Albino LSS and Albino Snakes, but still yet to see any pics of Albino PB's.

Any chance of a pic or link G ?

Cheers,

Dee :)

samir
Wed Jul 05, 2006, 07:03 AM
http://discushabitat.com/
i think he's on the forum.

G-1000
Thu Jul 06, 2006, 12:29 AM
Samir - I have never been to that site mate..

The article I wa referring to for appearance of albino PB's is:

http://www.aquarealms.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23364&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Any mods - sorry if I cannot post link here on forum (not sure if I am allowed).

The first pics you see on there are of what appear to be chequerboards (PB based by the look of it).

Later on the article there are some nice turks albinos too.

Some albino RGD's can also be seen here

http://www.simplydiscus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51413

G

Dee
Thu Jul 06, 2006, 07:28 AM
G'day G,

Thanks for the links mate :D They are actually the links i was refereing to in my last post :wink:

Those patterned albino's are Albino carnations, the carnation is actually a red turq variant and not PB. They are very nice Albino's to say the least ... Although I must say Ung Seng Lip's Albino RGD's are truly awsome IMO and one of my fave Albino's I have seen to date .... JMO though :wink:

If anyone knows of some pics of Albino PB's I would love to see them, but from the info I have seen around the forums etc, there really isnt many, if any around ... must be a reason why ?

Thanks for the links G ... appreciate it :)

Cheers,

Dee :)

G-1000
Thu Jul 06, 2006, 08:57 AM
http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482

Although not really albino i guess.

Hurry up and make some PB albinos crocky !

G

Dee
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 03:16 AM
Heya Guys,

Just for intrest sake here's a good post regarding Ung Seng Lip's Albino RGD's ... very nice Albino's IMO

http://www.todaydiscus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2195

And here's a post with some pics of Albino Blue Diamond's, also a nice Albino variant .... also there are some pics of Albino's Leopards ... nice too :)

http://www.todaydiscus.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2210

Gotta love some of the Albino's making the rounds !

Cheers,

Dee :D

* I hope I am not breatching any forum policy's by posting such links

Ben
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 04:50 AM
* I hope I am not breatching any forum policy's by posting such links

That's an automatic fine of $800- Dee.
Funds can be paid directly into my bank account. :P

Dee
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 05:14 AM
That's an automatic fine of $800- Dee.
Funds can be paid directly into my bank account. :P

Benny,

Just deduct it from the total you owe me :P Would almost square us up matey ! Cheecky bugger LOL

Cheers,

Dee

Ben
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 05:18 AM
Nope, that's $800- per link amigo!

heheheheeh

Dee
Fri Jul 07, 2006, 05:21 AM
LOL

Guess we all square now Benny :wink: *wipes the slate clean*

:D