Angels Bred by LadyRed & Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

Thought I would post up some pictures of the Angels Ladyred sent up to Sydney about 3 weeks ago.

Novafishy also got some we got a bonus ordered 10 but received 12 :P :P

Here they are Angels Bred by LadyRed :) :) :) :) :)


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel1.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel2.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel3.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel4.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel5.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel6.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/Oscarmanalpha/LRsAngel7.jpg


Cheers,

Mark

[discusme]

very nice Mark. What type of angels are they ?

Cheers,
Ronny

[OscarManAlpha]

Funny you should ask Ronny....

http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5972

They have an interesting history these fellas...

And I wanted them from the time they were tiny fry :D

And guess what I got them :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers,

Mark

[Zbiljc]

Are they Pterophyllum s. altum?

[kevkoi]

nice veiltail zebras

[Merrilyn]

Are they Pterophyllum s. altum?

Definately not altums, but the parents are huge fish, much larger than the domestic angel.

For now, I think we'll just call them veiltail zebras. Very prolific pair. I have just removed 100 fry from the parent tank, and they have around 300 eggs again.

Lovely photos Mark. They're growing well. :P

[Ben]

great Pics Mark!

I have some aswell, i will get some updated photo's soon.

cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

I have some aswell, i will get some updated photo's soon.
cheers
Ben

I thought my dog begged for food alot.....

But these guy's are far worse !!

Cheers,

Mark

[Merrilyn]

Ohhhh I know. Every time you walk past the tank, they try to lay a guilt trip on you :oops:

[Ben]

Here are some of my veils from the same batch.

As you mentioned they are little pig’s!

Cheers
Ben
:shock:

[Ben]

Mark, i could not help myself and now have some albino's!

:oops:

looks we are gonna need an angel forum soon!
:shock: :wink:

Cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

Mark, i could not help myself and now have some albino's!

:oops:

looks we are gonna need an angel forum soon!
:shock: :wink:

Cheers
Ben

Ben I could not agree more mate.

Those albino's are awesome.. I really like the white or negative barring on them ( if thats how one describes it )

Thanks for making me jealous.. I'm happy with my gold's but I NEED albino's as well, the barring has caught my eye...

Also I'm keen on some nice half blacks/browns veils.

These Angels could be a dangerous addiction IMO..

How many albino's did you get ?

Cheers,

Mark

[Ben]

Hiya Mark!

They are very addictive indeed!

I picked up 1/2 dozen of them.
If you are after some, let me know!
They are cheap as chips!

Will catch up with you soon mate!

Cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

They are cheap as chips!

I sure will, very tempting : )

Have you noticed any more than the usual amount of aggresion from them in comparison to the ones from LR ?

I have 3 of the Angels I got from LR with the spot just behind the eye and on the upper part of the gill plate....

I see you have some with that marking aswell.

I sure hope I can get a pair that both have that spot...

Four eyed veiltail zebra angels :oops: :oops: ???

It's all good I am just a little insane !!

Cheers,

Mark

[Merrilyn]

Just wait till I post some pics of my Black Lace Veiltails, Albino Pearlscale Veiltails and Half Black veiltail pairs. :wink:

Yep, we certainly do need an Angel fish forum.

Hey Proteus .............how about it ?

You've got some angelfish addicts here in need of a home :lol:

[Ben]

Very good observation Mark!

I agree Merrilyn! we neeeeed an aussie angel forum!!

I have not seen any around but are there albino veil tails? They would look stunning!

Cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

I agree Merrilyn! we neeeeed an aussie angel forum!!
Cheers
Ben

Yep we sure do....

I know they are not the most expensive fish and are not recommended to be kept with discus.

But to see six or more angels ( well bred ) in a large enough tank and of the same variety is an awesome sight.....

We need good info and discussion so we can select and breed some good Aussie stock..

Plenty of cheap and nasty angels around with missing ventrals and other defects.

I think a forum to improve the general knowledge of this magnificent species will lead to some wonderful angels we can all enjoy....

Just imagine 6 well bred angels and a shoal of Congo tetras or bleeding hearts how good that would look ? Especially in a planted tank.

The only real drawbacks to these guy's is poor quality and not being the most suitable tank mates to the king and their enjoyment of chasing down and munching smaller fish ( like neons ect... )

Lets just hope some other interested people speak up....

In the mean time I guess we can just do our little Angel threads from time too time...but it's not going to get all the bit's of conversation and discovery in the one place....

Cheers,

Mark

[Ben]

Mark I could not agree more mate!

Not a truer word spoken!

Bring on the angels!

[Merrilyn]

Yaaaaaaay I vote for angels.


Are you listening Mr Proteus


and this puts me one post ahead of you :lol:

[Merrilyn]

Ohhh no it doesn't.

[Merrilyn]

Might have to add a couple more posts.

[OscarManAlpha]

Yaaaaaaay I vote for angels.


Are you listening Mr Proteus


and this puts me one post ahead of you :lol:

Good work lol

Your prize should be an angel forum :wink:

Cheers,

Mark

[Merrilyn]

Ahhhh that's better. A clear lead.

Now how about that Angel forum.

[OscarManAlpha]

LR if you post pics of your, Black Lace Veiltails, Albino Pearlscale Veiltails and Half Black veiltail pairs.

That would make me want some, hmmmmm not sure that's going to be good for me being that I would need ( not wan't ) 6 or more of each to call my own :P :P :P

Cheers,

Mark

[Merrilyn]

Just wait till tomorrow Mark, and you will have some pictures.

[tara]

I think we definently need a Angel forum because I know absolutly nothing about them and would like to find out :lol:

[Merrilyn]

We're working on it Tara. :P

[Ben]

After some hard work and patience i spawned a pair of Wild Angels!
(Pterophyllum Scalare)

Not out of the woods yet as they only became free swimming today!


8-)

[Merrilyn]

Well done Ben. Are you going to leave the fry with the parents?

[Ben]

Thanks Merrilyn.
I will leave this batch with the parents, my last batch was taken away and was unsuccessful.

Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

Awesome Ben.

Keep us posted on how they get on...

Those pics have made my week mate...

Cheers,

Mark

[Ben]

Some more pics.

they are getting live BBS 5 times per day.

Cheers
Ben

[Dave76]

Well done Ben

nice looking pair of angels you have there

Dave

[OscarManAlpha]

they are getting live BBS 5 times per day.


Looks like they are off to a fantastic start then.

Please let me know if you are at all prepared to sell some on.

I would ideally like to get twelve but would be more than happy for six of those beauties.

Great pics and fantastic to see some more good Aussie bred angels being bred and raised with heaps of TLC.

I will post up updates of the ones I got from Ladyred some of them are huge.

How good would it be to pair up one of yours and one of Ladyreds offspring ?

It's probably taboo to suggest it !! But I can't see the harm : )

Cheers,

Mark

[taksan]

they are getting live BBS 5 times per day.




How good would it be to pair up one of yours and one of Ladyreds offspring ?

It's probably taboo to suggest it !! But I can't see the harm : )

Cheers,

Mark

these are WILDS !!!! are you NUTS ???????????????

[Ben]

these are WILDS !!!! are you NUTS ???????????????

At $70 for 4cm juvies, they are not cheap! :wink: :shock:

[nicholas76]

stunning fish !

[OscarManAlpha]

these are WILDS !!!! are you NUTS ???????????????

Very much so !!

Visions of them ( 12-15 ) in a fully planted 6*2*2 with a 40-60 Bleeding hearts or Rosy tetras is sending me further down the path of Angel madness !!

mmmmmm........it's late I must get some sleep.

I now have something to dream about !!

cheers,

Mark

[Ben]

Sorry for hijaking the thread Merrilyn and Mark! but here are some pictures taken today of the F1's.

I have started to wean them off the live baby brine shrimp.

Cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

Sorry for hijaking the thread Merrilyn and Mark!
Cheers
Ben

I just renamed the thread :shock: .

The more bumps the better :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :twisted: :twisted:

BTW Ben I would love to purchase some, hmm let me see 12@$70 each is $840. PM me Ben perhaps you can let me off 10 or so percent LOL.

Great pic's such a tease !!

Must be some more angel breeders, willing to provide some pics.

Cheers,

Mark

[Ben]

LOL Mark!!

Special price for you!!

Cheers
Ben

[OscarManAlpha]

LOL Mark!!

Special price for you!!

Cheers
Ben

Thanks Ben : )

Keep us posted mate.

Should be fun to see how properly raised fry develop.

I'm sure they will be getting the premium beef heart mix, won't they ?

Cheers,

Mark

[OscarManAlpha]

I didn't expect this to happen so soon.....

But a picture tells a thousand words so here they are....

Soon as I get some tank space I will give them a more private setting.

Thanks Merrilyn for sending up such wonderful healthy fish.

Cheers,

Mark

[TeeFM]

WOW! Congratulations.

I have never kept angel myself as I am always a discus person. But I have a sencond thought now...might consider keeping angel in the near future.

Amazing and keep up with good work!

[Ben]

Well done Mark!

thanks for the pic!

Cheers
Ben

[nicholas76]

wow

thats a superb effort and they are so young too!

Mark you treat your fish like royalty I wouldnt expect less.


:D

[Merrilyn]

Mark you've done a great job with them. That's very early for them to be spawning, so they must be very happy with the conditions.

By the way, I tracked down the origin of these fish. By a remarkable coincidence a friend discovered the name of the gentleman who imported the wild parents of my pair. They were imported as wild caught "peruvian altums" and the gentleman raised a spawn from them. One pair from that spawn was sent to Melbourne, and I was able to purchase the pair from the lady who bought them.

That makes my pair F1 peruvians and your fish F2. Any fry you breed from them will be F3.

I knew they weren't just normal domestic zebras. They were far too large and had a dished nose, same as I see in photo of your spawning pair, but it's great to be able to actually track down their history. :P

[nicholas76]

guys,

how do you rate angels in comparison to discus in terms of maintenance, are they as senseitive as Discus can get? how would you rate them in terms of hardeness eg like geos ?

[fronny]

Ben time for a update on the fry...................LOL

[Ben]

poor little buggers where over crowded in a 4 footer, so had to get a 6x2x2 tank just for them!

:lol:

[fronny]

have you count them yet :? and what sort of price do they sell for?

[Ben]

have you count them yet Confused and what sort of price do they sell for?

Not sure how many, but for you $15 ea :D

[OscarManAlpha]

Now that's eye candy Ben. :P

Cheers,

Mark

[nicholas76]

HOly **************


are these the F1's Ben???

[Ben]

Yep

[goldenpigeon]

how much is $15 X infinity?

awesome fish ben!

why do you have gravel in the tank?

[kalebjarrod]

WOW DUDE

my wife wants to know how many tanks you now have if you can spare a 6x2x2 for baby angels ?

[samir]

Pheeew that's an infestation. the only thing i've seen in those numbers is planaria. :lol: :lol: :lol: unfortunately the're a bit hard to sell :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dcarmau]

yes! Angelforums.com Ho!

I'd join, our angels are nothing special, one poor thing is half-blind, but I love them, IMO if Discus are the King, Angels must surely reign as Queen! The Agression, for starters, Angels rule discus, surely that makes them Queen To a Discus King?

*smiles*
See you there!

[chrissyoscar]

Stunning Ben just stunning.
I'll have to come over for a look, that 6x2x2 must look amazing with all those angels in it.
BTW did you know Christine LOVES angels. :lol:

[nicholas76]

ummmm

can someone post more ANGEL pics please its been awhile :roll: :D

[Ben]

Nick i think its time you posted some pictures of your angels!!

[nicholas76]

yknow I would if i could lol

they look straight at you for a feed and you dont get much in a picture !!lmao

[endless]

Ben have you got anymore pictures of your baby angels. I wouldnt mind getting some off you. What type of angels are they?

[nicholas76]

They are awsum ANGELS!

mine have tripled in size in like 3 weeks!

[Ben]

What type of angels are they?

Parents are wild scalares, so that makes mine F1's.

[endless]

Anymore pics ben? How big are they now?

[Ben]

8-)

[Ben]

50 cent size.

[nicholas76]

Nice pictures Ben

I will persist but these are some of mine for now

[nicholas76]

More...

[nicholas76]

More...

[DR.V]

Cant see the "more" pictures...

[nicholas76]

gday mate

you posted right in the middle of an edit hence why you couldnt see it hehe



the geo is a tank mate of the angels ! just thought id post it for the hell of it

[mcloughlin2]

I picked myself up some very nice black marble angelfish yesterday and today ..

I bought 2 yesterday (Possible pair) and after i was sure they had settled in fine i went and bought another 2 (Another possible pair :lol: )

They are in a 4x14x20 (Nice and high for them) :wink: tank till i get some breeding then i will move the pair/s into some 2ft tanks i have...

I will get some pictures up by the end of the week ...

Hopefully i will be able to buy some nice veiltails soon and im hoping to pick up some anglefish from GP when i go to QLD in the next few weeks ...

So far however they are looking sexiiiiiiii *Drool*
:lol:

Thanks for reading,

Sam :lol:

[nicholas76]

They are coming along nicely


Same Angels still growing strong

http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9233