rgd and albino with eggs

[Crocky]

Here's a few pics for everyone to have a look at.
Rgd male and albino female with eggs which I found today after work.
Plus a update on the second lot of rgd fry which are still with mum.

Brad

[Discus 41]

dude the more you post the more I admire your ability to spawn these fantastic fish.
Keep on posting as I'm sure there others out there who can't get enough.
P.S. let me know what you may for sale

[nicholas76]

now these fish!

priceless!!!

[sammigold]

Jealous arent you Nick.... :-)

Its amazing Brad, you sure have the knack....

[kalebjarrod]

nice use of stuff around the house

i like :wink:

[Merrilyn]

Brad, what can I say. Mate you are the guru.

And I thought sending you the albinos would present a challenge LOL

Mate, I'm in awe. You make it look easy (and the rest of us know it isn't).

Congratulations.

[OscarManAlpha]

What next some Wilds ?

Cheers,

Mark

[Merrilyn]

Now there's a challenge. Hmmmm wonder where I can get some wilds for you to spawn Brad LOL

[dotcomguy]

Very nice pics! post some more :)

[Crocky]

Thanks for the comments glad you like the pics.
Merrilyn,Jim has breed wild caught (tefe green ) I think that what he called them.This is when he lived in holland and wild fish are pretty easy to buy.
Can I ask everyone what the big deal is about wild discus give me albino's any day.

Brad

[G-1000]

Crocky

I want you to perform a wild caught heckel male cross to an albino female

That would be awesome

G

[Ben]

Brad, what can I say. Mate you are the guru.

I second that quote!

Seriously Brad you are kicking bootie with the discus breeding!

Keep up the awesome work mate and talk to you soon!

Cheers
Ben

[Crocky]

Hi all

80% of the eggs went white in 24 hour so I sucked them all up.
They look as if they may spawn again soon,but they have a week to do something.
He is only in with this female as I have to keep him apart from he's mate as they fight if she not ready to spawn or have fry.
I was just trying to kill 2 bird with one stone.

Brad

[nicholas76]

Crocky ive never heard of anyone cross breeding these gems

perhaps allan or andrew soh can tell us what the fry will look like!??

[discus21]

congratulations again
guru

we bow to you almighty one

totally envies

discus21

[Merrilyn]

Hi Nick. The albino/albino spawning is rarely done. The fry are usually weak because of the double recessive gene.

The ususal spawning is albino/normal. This will produce hybrid fry, not showing, but carrying the albino gene. These fry can then be spawned together, and their offspring will be albino. Or one can be crossed back to the albino parent, and again the result will be albino fry.

Albino fry will only result when both parents carry the albino gene.

That's why albino discus will never be cheap. A lot of work goes into creating them.

[Crocky]

Hi Merrilyn

When they do breed the hybrid fry togeather you still only produce a small percentage of albino's if any.That is the understanding I got when reading Andrew Soh's book.Have I got that correct.

Brad

[kalebjarrod]

Yes because this is a recesive gene

so being the less dominant gene, it show's its head less frequent

as the colour is bred more and more it will slowly become a more consistant line

but as soon as you introduce a new gene pol with a stronger gene you will again be left with a mixture of colours

its hard to decide if you line bred for the colour or interbred to keep the strength

and that is what good bredders have to do, decide :wink:

[Merrilyn]

Fascinating stuff Ryan. Do you have a chart showing the percentages of albino offspring. I remember seeing one, but can't seem to find it now.

[axelfaz]

hi merrilyn if i remember rightly its very low about 5 to 10% of fry will be albiino. IHTH

Cameron

[Merrilyn]

Thanks Cam. Might have to get motivated and do some research into this albino gene.

Fascinating stuff :P

[G-1000]

Merrilyn,

If the albino gene is aa, the carrier gene is Aa and the RGD dominant Gene is AA then crossing two carriers will give the following cross:


A a
A AA Aa

a Aa aa

Thus, 25% of offspring born will be albino, 50% will be RGD with recessive albino gene and 25% will be pure RGD

G