hi hi :)

[Matthew]

Hey guys :).

just wondering what a nice varient of discus is too buy. im going to try my luck with them but would like a Pure Black species with red stripes or a White species with black stripes (or vica versa)

any of these exist, price, etc

and what basic info is too go off with these lil critters?

-Matt

[kalebjarrod]

Hay Matt,

you can't get blacks to my knowlege

you can get whites, but nothing with stripes (they breed the stripes out of them in the early PB stage, long story for another thread)

but you can get all manners of yellows, reds, orange, blue, greenish, whites, spotted, striped and combinations of most

Discus need clean water, warm water and variety in diet. 10gal per adult fish and by my memory you live in brisvegus so your water is pretty good you jsut need to kill the chlorimine in it

they are pretty easy to look after once you know the basics

good on ya mate

[goldenpigeon]

THATS PRETTY MUCH IT :lol:

lol good 1 ryan ;)

[chrissyoscar]

Hi Matt

Your not a Collingwood or Essendon supporter are you. :lol:

Oscar

[dreamer]

some shop do have 'black' discus ie. very sick discus :x

[ctvu]

Hi Matt

Your not a Collingwood or Essendon supporter are you. :lol:

Oscar

I think he is :P :P

ctvu

[Merrilyn]

Matthew............................discus now??????????

If you want to start in discus hun, I will send some to you. Just let me know :wink:

[Proteus]

The one thing you dont want is Black Discus...


arggghhhhh the Plague

lol

[Matthew]

thanks for all the help

I want a black discus, that would look cool! obviously healthy though.

ladyred, after you breed Heckel, your challenge is to make me a black discus thats not diseased! :p

-Matt

[Matthew]

after talking to LadyRed and looking at the water restrictions... i think 1 less person with discus would help :)

-Matt

[gav]

just take the water from your discus tanks, buff it up and put it in your african tanks. they will think its still fresh after the discus are done with it :lol:

[goldenpigeon]

hahaha!!!!
hi gav and welcome to DF.com ;)

[Merrilyn]

Welcome to Discus Forums Gav. Hope you enjoy your time with us. :wave

[Merrilyn]

Junior ..................L00K......................1000 posts.

how cool is that :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2 :wave2

[leanne31]

Congrats junior but im catching you

[goldenpigeon]

hehehe thatnx merrilyn and leanne :D

tsk tsk tsk leanne u rnt close to me ;) i bet that will change now :roll:

[leanne31]

I'll catch you sooner than you think remember I dont go to school. :lol:

[Matthew]

hmmm... i would love discus, but cost/time is a problem for me :(

-Matt

[kalebjarrod]

Matty,

your DIY literate

make a water change system

or i'll sell you one :wink: i'd even make it so it could change the water into another tank of fish for ya

and discus arn't that expensive, $20.00 will get you nice red turqs

[leanne31]

Gees Ryan I wish I lived where you do I cant get a common turk for less than $50 and thats just for a real small one.

[goldenpigeon]

LOL leanne... but i dont have kids........ ;)

[Matthew]

getting discus isnt a problem for me :)... its the constant water changing. i can make auto changers and what not, but i cant justify dumping so much water... even if it is only into the garden..

-Matt

[DR.V]

when i do water change, i use it to water the plants on the garden too... So I dont have to spend extra water for garden.

[kalebjarrod]

use the water in a barra tank or a general chiclid tank :wink:

[jwight]

I am a little suprised that anybody in Adelaide hasn't replyed and said that there is numerous pure black discus (except eyes) in the planted display tank. They are healthy and have been there for years.

[Merrilyn]

Oh that is so interesting. Where did you see them, and can you get a photo.

I have never seen one :shock:

[premier]

gee where is this tank i'll take a few photos and post them for you ladyred.

[leanne31]

I havent seen any and Im always doing the lfs rounds there must be a shop that Im missing where is it :?:

[Shawnts106]

Heck, Im brand new to the Discus world and IVE SEEN black discus, they were not pure black but one did have a solid BLACK tail!... it was awsome, yellow face, black tail and a red body! ... dont remember where I saw it though :(

Here in the US (oxford Alabama) I cant get 2 inch PB's, that are VERY colorful for $19.98 US DOLLARS!... thats good IMO, I want .. OH my Neon purple was 27.98us dollars but I want 2 more... I solid yellow or a major yellow and a Snakeskin, red and Turq or Turq and green or some other combo.. just a nice looking snakey!....

here is a picture of my 2 babys now... eatting like a crazy mad money chicken.... dont ask!

[Shawnts106]

I cant get 2 inch PB's, that are VERY colorful for $19.98 US DOLLARS

I mean CAN!

[Merrilyn]

Well, I've had discus for thirty years, and I am yet to see a solid black discus.

So if someone can show me one, I would love to see a piccie.

Shawn the one you are talking about is a marlboro red. Lovely discus, but definately not all black.

Someone pleeeeeease show me a black discus. :o

[Shawnts106]

Marlburo Red? It was sold as a PB.... its that redish color with some blue on its top and bottom fin with red inbetween the blue... isnt this a pb?... heres a better picture!

[Proteus]

I have looked through several Discus books, and done some searching, the only Black discus out there is a dying one.

[Shawnts106]

Well the one I saw seemed fine... it wasnt all black but did have a solid black tail... was pretty neat... A black discus is a dieing discus...

wait .. I have a question...

the peper look?... will it go away... is that just in juvies or in adults too?

[leanne31]

They're talking about the whole body being black not just the tail I havent seen a full black discus but if jwight would like to say where he seen that one I'll be happy to take a photo of it if its healthy of course.
The peppering is like freckles and moles it will be there when its a adult as well.

[Shawnts106]

always?... they dont grow out of it??... :(, darn... OH WELL, I still really like them.... is it just chance that they get them? or Genetic or is there a way to get rid of it?... of course not.. nevermind....

How do you get a Juvie Discus without it?... just luck of the draw huh?

[leanne31]

Just buy one that doesnt show any signs of the peppering coming but still doesnt mean it wont have some when its a adult maybe just less.

[Shawnts106]

What is pepering exactly... I mean, does it show that the fish is a male or female, is it genetic or environmental? Please explain!

[Matthew]

peppering (AFAIK) is from bad bloodlines where the previous barring is displayed and "peppered" along the body from the line breeding....

it wont affect health, only the look of your fish :)

-Matt

[Shawnts106]

:(, my babys have bad blood!!! :(

So as a discus breeder you want to look for the baby that has the LEAST amount if any at all peppering?

[Merrilyn]

LOL no Shawn, you baby does not have 'bad blood'.

The spotting was simply a developmental step along the way. Only a few years ago, all Marlboro discus showed spotting on the face or body. The breeders have continuously bred pairs with the least amount of spotting to produce a Marlboro Red with almost no spotting at all. What they refer to as a 'clean' discus.

I have fish with a lot of spotting, and others with no spotting. It's just a different colouration, but I like them all. I think the spots give them some character 8-)

[Shawnts106]

ok, they feel better now... they are happy! they think they are unique!... lets call it that!