Can someone help me I.D and Sex these please!!!!

[Discuschickie]

Hi everyone, i brought this pair of discus 2 days ago and was told they were a pair of Yellow Sunshine Discus but i cant seem to find any pictures on the net of a Yellow Sunshine so just wondering if someone can tell me what they are and if anyone can id the sex of each one that would be great.. thanks
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/stacaleigh/100_1170-1.jpghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e249/stacaleigh/100_1169-Copy-1-1.jpg

[ILLUSN]

Pair of pigion bloods, i dont put any weight to "manufactured names" basicly if you breed it you can market it as what ever you like.

[Hollowman]

I agree with ILLUSN, just PB's I hope you never paid too much for them, they are not the best examples.
Left hand fish I think is male, right hand is female.

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[Discuschickie]

thanks guys, nah didnt pay too much for them as the last breeding pair i brought cost me $250 and they died in a week as the seller didnt tell me they had worms and being my first pair i didnt know how to treat so i went to the local petshop and got some worm tablet but they didnt help, so wasnt going to pay too much for my next pair..
is there any particular way to tell the difference between the males and females? i have 8 other discus in another tank growing up so just wondering?

[swampy1972]

The best way with those sort of numbers is to just give them time and good conditions.. they'll pair off when they're ready.
Without taking them to the vet it's the only 100% way of knowing.