L104's and 168's spawned and Now L066 too :)

[ILLUSN]

just thought I'd share some photos the other night a few fry got kicked out of my 168's cave (5) and my 104's cave (2)

popped them into an egg tumbler and they seem to be doing quite well.

was worried about the 104's they had a funny looking yolk sack, now that the yolks exausted they look fine

168's are soo tiny even smaller then orange spot fry

[Kangus]

congrats on the spawn! keep us updated. Will you be selling fry later on?

[TW]

Hi Jothy

Yes, will you be selling fry? Do these get much bigger than peppermints?

[ILLUSN]

LOL yes i'll be selling fry but these guys are alittle diffrent to bristlenoses, 168's are omnivours that get to about 18cm in length, they can get a little agro to each other and other fish, 104's dont get bigger then 10cm, eat wood and not much else, and poo like you wouldn't believe.

both species are almost strictly nocturnal I'm installing moonlights so i get to see them, as soon as i have decent numbers of fry they be sold here to DF members only :)

but dont hold your breath, neither species is "easy" to spawn, still you never know.

[taksan]

Well done jothy ....

[ILLUSN]

thanks mate!!!!!

2 more pairs of 168's fanning eggs now and 2 male 104's going crazy, cant see into the caves though, too deep and they plug them up very well.

[ILLUSN]

UPDATE!

104 fry were out tonight little guys just under 2cm as ibdicated by the 2 .3cm cherry shrimp.

still so sign of the 168 fry :(

[Kangus]

well done! they are nice looking cats

[ILLUSN]

thanks mate, they are awesome little buggers, I just love them!

[ILLUSN]

UPDATE!!!!

168's not doing so well small batches of fry who are VERy shy.

104's going crazy just had my 4th spawn leave the cave and the fry are everywhere

[ILLUSN]

they co exist very happily with peppermints and orange spots these little cats are a great addition to almost any planted tank I just love them.

the first batch are about 2.5cm and doing very well eating Sera catfish chips, hikari algae wafers zeuchini and aquaone malaysian driftwood

[Mattzilla]

haha you've been busy jothy!

you're on fire mate

[Kangus]

these little guys would be getting up in size now? did you manage to get any 168's in the end?

[ILLUSN]

Unfortunatly no they seem to peiter out at about 3 week mark, I guess the pepfry are just outcompeating them for food. 104's are doing well and should be ready for sale by mid november.

[TW]

They look cute. Since they can co-exist with peppermints, I'm interested in the 104's. Let us know when you have set a price

[ILLUSN]

Hi Robyn, mine live well with peps and orange spots as you can see from the pics, just make sure you have caves (drilling a 25mm holes in a thick pice of drift wood works the best) price will be cheap probably $25 but i wont sell them any smaller then 3.5cm, by that size they'll be tough enough for new water, and only a cm or 2 off breeding size.

will keep you all posted.

[Mr Wild]

How are these guys going Jothy, wouldn't mind getting some off you.

[ILLUSN]

Hi kath, not so good I'm afraid had a ph crash and lost
all but 1 baby 104, 2 adult 66's, 4 adult 104's

still have my big male and female so I"m sure they'll spawn again soon.

[Kangus]

oohh that sucks, sorry to hear that mate

[TW]

Too bad, Jothy

Oh, well. I'm still interested in those 104's. So they go well in planted tanks?

Please put my name down for a small group, when you next have enough at a saleable size.

[Mr Wild]

Oh what a bummer Jothy!

Hope to buy some off you when you have them up and steaming ahead then!

[Kangus]

have you managed to get the 104's to spawn again? how goes the progress?

[ILLUSN]

going well, 2 males fanning not sure if they have fry yet or not, all males in that tank are fanning 104's, 66's and peppermints, still have 2 104 fry ~3cm now but I'm going to keep them to help bolster the colony

[albatrozz]

had a ph crash and lost
all but 1 baby 104, 2 adult 66's, 4 adult 104's


Sorry to hear mate. How are the new fry doing? Any updates?

And btw, just curious, how do you know you had a pH crash? And how did it happen?

[ILLUSN]

fry doing ok but growing super slow.

ph crass was pretty obvious dipped in the ph meter and it was reading 3.1 checked it just to be syre and after calibration was reading 3.0.

just didnt get all the muck behind the wood and hadn't cleand the filters in a long time. live and learn.

[Kangus]

how are these guys going?

[ILLUSN]

going great latest 168's are just hitting 3cm and theres a few 2.5-3cm 104's shooting around the tank, spawning seems easy enough raising the fry is a pain in the behind.

[Mr Wild]

So selling soon? Better putme down for some!

[ILLUSN]

lol all the 168's are pre sold the 104's i'll list when I'm happy with the size of them

[ILLUSN]

Been a long time since i updated this thread but I have great news, my 104's decided to spawn again asi keep finding 104 fry all over the tank! and best of all they talked the L066's into doing the same :)

[ILLUSN]

update time!

104's are on their 4th spawn.

66's havn't gone again but the 6 fry from their spawn are doing very well indeed.

[ILLUSN]

and the 66's this little fella is about 32mm

[Merrilyn]

Well done Jothy. Not easy fish to get breeding.

[*Chris*]

awesome work , I just had the 66 spawn and zebra male has been trapping the females , can't wait to see the outcomes

merrily did you get my PM?

[ILLUSN]

Thanks Chris and Merrilyn!

I've had the 104's go before to be honest hard to spawn were these guys

http://www.discusforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=174872#174872

so back to back spawns makes me a VERY happy camper indeed!

[*Chris*]

once they kick start generally its not hard to get them going as long as stability is maintained . I just noticed my L128 fanning , OZ first perhaps ? :)

[b/n guy]

Got any fry up to size for selling?

[ILLUSN]

Funny you should say that got some nice big 104s and 66's in the tank now I was waiting for the 134's to come up to size before I sold any.

Which ones were you after?

[b/n guy]

the 104s depending on price. How many and what price for the lot?

[ILLUSN]

let me get into the tank and catch out whats up to size, theres a heap of 104's but i think only the 1st 2 spawns are ready.