eheim 2250 or 2217??

[Radix]

Ok now for a few months I have been thinking about a large canister filter for my 6x2x1.5 planted discus tank.. I have a 2228 at one end and a aquaone cf 1200 with a pond master 36w uv on the other end. but I still get those very small particles floating about, now after much reading I am tempted to get a 2250, (was considering an Aquaone cf 2400, but they seem to have there own issues, ie 62w power, bypassing etc) so is the 2250 over kill or would a 2217 be better to add to polish the water.. I ask because the 2250 are on special at the moment, any opinions?? :)

[Greggy]

2250 all the way but the Ehiem quick-connect taps (which you will want) will add significantly to the total cost.

Regards,

Greggy

[Radix]

Thanks Greggy
I have been waiting for your review of the 2250, are the taps the 16/22mm doubles? I suppose I'll require two, Ouch these are costly! (ASA has them). Looking at another post (davo and the 2260) there is the ball taps DIY option..??

regards

Radix

[taksan]

16/22 taps yes ....the 2250 kills a 2217 for performance BUT it does not come with media which will increase the price but the special offer at the moment is good value.

[Hollowman]

The 2217 comes with fiter media, a fraction of the cost and are ecomomic to run. They really are a great workhorse cannister and bulletproof. 2217 for me.

[Radix]

After adding up the costs of taps, and media its about $100 short of the 2080, might be better to go all out for the big beast??,

[Greggy]

The Eheim 2250 Classic requires a 12/16mm double tap (output) and a very expensive 25/34mm double tap (intake). Note that the Eheim 2250 and 2260 both share the bigger 25/34mm intake tube compared to the 2217 Classic which uses the smaller 16/22mm intake tube. The Eheim 2250 Classic uses a 12/16mm output tube whilst the 2260 Classic uses the bigger 16/22mm output tube (due to its higher output).

I agree with Taksan that the Eheim 2250 Classic is vastly superior to the 2217 (itself a fantastic filter) and I will explain why in my review... it's been stting 3/4 written on my hard disk for a long time now, best I finish it for you soon!

An Eheim 2250 (or 2260) Classic filter combined with an Eheim surface skimmer (you'll need another 25/34mm single tap and a 12/16mm to 25/34mm tee) make for a very formidable FW filtration system that has few peers.

Regards,

Greggy

[Radix]

Well after much thought and reading I think I have talked myself into the 2080.. I know the 2250 is a great workhorse but IMO it is not good value for money without taps.. and I missed ASA's special anyway, the 2217 is great value but I would like a higher turnover that the 2080 can provide.
Thanks all for your help.

Radix :)

[ILLUSN]

you will not regret that decision 2080 is a true BEAST! best filter I've ever used.

[Radix]

Well I still havent got my head around spending so much on one filter,(the 2080), and have gone back through many posts to find some actual data.
I have read Taksan's review so many times I nearly know it of by heart.. and looking at Illusn's "Eheim in series" post and the flow rates he got has me re-thinking what I need..

EHEIM 2080 has 12L + 1.5L of media (Eheim media kit, 8L substrat pro, 4L mech and pads) has a real flow rate of 1207 L/Hr (Taksan data)

EHEIM 2217 has 6L of media, 4L substrat Pro, 1L mech and course/fine foam pads with a flow of 649L/Hr..(from Illusns measurements)

So two 2217 in theory would go close to one 2080 biologically and even at 600L/hr each would match the flow of the 1207 L/Hr of the 2080,
Ok so there is an extra 10w of power (40w in total) for both the 2217 filters compared to 30w of the 2080.. so if I apply Taksan's divide by 3 rule, with EHEIM Specs on paper they are close..

Now the fact you can purchase 2x 2217 for a little more than half that of the 2080(with media) can you really tell me its worth spending the extra..and why you would. :?

I can only go by your experience and then I can make my choice, Lucky I have so much choice.. :)
Regards
Radix

[Radix]

Well it doesnt matter now, I have ordered the 2080, will be here in about two weeks.. lets hope its worth it.. :)