sick discus.. cloudy eye pics also

[dandaman352]

Came home and noticed my checkerboard had something wrong with his eyes. He's acting completly normal. Eating, swimming, etc. But theres something wrong with his eyes and a discoloration near the gills.

My water parameters are as follow: PH- 6.2 Alk- 0 Hard - 50 ppm 0 ammonia 0 nitrite 4 nitrate. (did a water change couple of days ago)

I also recently put 2 weather loaches in my "hospital bucket" (no quar. tank) for ICK. But after 2 days they are both cured and I'm debating putting them back in my tank but now I'm worried about it.

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[scott bowler]

hi have you had any ph swings or temp going down in the last few days ? i would just keep and eye on it but i think it will be ok, if it is still doing things normal ,

[dandaman352]

I woke up today and my fish has gotten worse. The mucus like film is now completly covering his eyes and he looks awful. A few of my other fish seem to be sick also now as my pleco seems to have fin/tail rot as well. I was told to purchase some melafix and start the 7 day treatment asap. Which I did.

Since last night, I've had 1 upside down cory cat die, and my 2 weather loaches died from some mysterious element which I had not seen. I thought it was ick, but whatever the white stuff were, it seemed to be growing it out of them like white strands.

My other discus seem to be fine, and my water change seems to have done nothing. I'm very stressed out about this and hope I was told the right thing to do by starting a melafix treatment. (was also told my elephant noses would be ok from this). Sorry for the long thing, but if anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it. Thanks for all your help.

[dandaman352]

Also to add in can I mix melafix with pimafix?

[ILLUSN]

melafix is useless for discus and pimafix is a bit mild, treat with an antifungal remedy i like protozin by water;ife, you can use up to a double dose on discus but at thay dose it will kill plecos and loaches.

[dandaman352]

I don't have a quarenteen tnak, but lets say I put him in a bucket with a heater with water from the tank. Would that be ok? (i dont have an extra air stone)

[dandaman352]

Oh and since melafix is useless, what can I do for the messed up eyes?

Also, protozin by waterlife is not available in the US..

[scott bowler]

check ammonia again how long has your tank been running?

[dandaman352]

I upgraded about 4 months ago but before that my old tank was established for years.
My ammonia is still at 0.
He's now near the surface of the water in the corner.. looks unfortanetly do be getting worse rather then better. Any advice on medicines that will clear up his messed up eyes will be greatly appreciated and I will run tommorow to pick it up (assuming he's still alive)

[ILLUSN]

you'll need an airstone for the bucket, igo to an LFS and get any antifungal medication and treat the tank, better to loose your loaches then your discus.

[dandaman352]

the anti-fungal will take care of the eye?

[ILLUSN]

if it looks like filaments growing on the fish its fungus, in this case proably the same organisum thats infedted the eye.

add salt as well during the treatment 1tsp/40L

[dandaman352]

Woke up this morning, my pleco died and my other upside down cory cat also. On the flip side, it seems like the melafix is making his eye better. First time in 2 days he's not on the top of the tank and you can see his eye a little bit.

[dandaman352]

Anyway, over the last couple of days I purchased Furan-2 to treat everyone. After a 2 days of promise on the last day of my treatment the eye thing is still there and has even spread to my other discus. As you can see on my checkerboard it starts off as this smaller white circle on their eye and grows from there. I have no idea what to do, so please if your going to tell me to put more medicine in or new medicine keep in mind my tank is completly saturated in Furan-2 =(

[Merrilyn]

Dan I'm really concerned about this problem spreading to your other fish, even after using medication.

You're in danger of having a whole tank wipeout, so I think it's time to call in some professional help. Ring your local vet and ask him if he treats fish, if not, can he recommend someone who does.

There's only so much help the members of a forum can offer. I think it's time to call in the professionals.

[dandaman352]

Well guys, thanks anyway I appreciate all the help. I guess I"ll just do some huge water changes and see what happens. If anyone has any ideas or anything please let me know.

[ILLUSN]

Mate, Like i mentioned to you in the pm's your at the stage where a vet can be of the most help to you.

if you can id the organisum you can fix this within 48 hours with the correct treatment.

[dandaman352]

I've been trying to find a vet or animal clinic tomorrow I should be able to call some places. Does anybody know a website or anything that tells you if they do FISH, house calls, etc. Thanks.