Geophagus altifrons "Tocantins"

[ozarowana]

I finally got some altifrons after wanting them for quite a while. I now have a tank with substrate. :lol:

[Kingkat]

Nice fish, Really well done.
Cheers,
David.

[Robdog]

Beautiful alti's mate.

[Ben]

very nice mate!

You planning on breeding them?

Ben

[ozarowana]

I can't take the credit for them as they were brought as adults.

They were purchased a couple of months ago as a trio but no spawning activity as yet.

And I've found out they are piscavores :( .... poor blue rams!

[Chilli Powder]

Awesome fish. Please let me know when you are selling fry!

[DiscusMad]

have they found the bottom of the glass yet?

[ozarowana]

There's only one bag of sand so the bottom shows at times.

[Chilli Powder]

How are these going mate? Any luck with fry? :)

[ozarowana]

I'm about 90% sure the three fish in the pics were all males, so I obtained another pair from the same source.

The new female bred with the dominant male about a month ago but I stripped them too early. They have bred again this afternoon.

[ozarowana]

I have been talking to a guy who has suggested these are infact not tocantins altifrons. I tend to agree with him as tocantins have a higher body profile, pointed mouth (start of the dorsal fin area) and a fully spotted tail.

He is 90% sure these are the aripuana I variant. I believe Merrilyn's alti's are aripuana I, but these look totally different to mine. Her's have a striped tail and a much larger lateral spot.

Trying to get some more people to ID them.

A few more pics.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9081/altifrons01pv5.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8110/altifrons06ab2.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6189/altifrons05xk7.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3299/altifrons03ak3.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5815/altifrons02cj5.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4092/altifrons04bm8.jpg

[ozarowana]

Turns out they are very likely "Tocantins" and there may be more than one type of "Tocantins" altifrons.

[ford2]

i think there is tocantine 1 and 2, by the info i got of a breeder that has both but yes i would also be interested in fry if you get enough to want to freight to perth :D

[ozarowana]

Fry are available. PM me if your interested.

[Chilli Powder]

Hey Mate, so do you have a positive ID on this fish?

[ozarowana]

I guess we can never be 100% positive with things like localities... but after much thought, talking to geo guys and comparing with as many pics as possible they are very likely "Tocantins".

Body shape and colour look quite different to "Xingu" and "Tapajos" that we thought they may have been. I guess we were thrown off by the fact that there is also another "Tocantins altifrons" here that has a high body and long snout.

If you have the Weidner book they look identical to the group of fish on the inside covers.

[Chilli Powder]

Cool thanks. Do you have fry? Interested in about 20

let me know. 0417388399
Cheers

[ford2]

thanks for the fry they look amazing, very happy with the fish and the service was great i would recomend dealing with ozarowana to anyone so thanks again
david

[ozarowana]

Glad you like them David. :D

[Phenomena]

Hi mate, what are those 2 small fish, gold rams?

[ozarowana]

Blue rams just not showing very much blue. Light substrate maybe?