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ikavia
Tue Jan 30, 2007, 08:13 AM
MOSS WALL

I would like to make a moss wall (http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/plants/leong_Moss_Wall.html), preferably with Christmas Moss. My reason for this is that the Christmas Moss looks a lot more fuller and lusher than Java moss.

Living in Newcastle, NSW my LFSs don't appear to carry either moss. The only place I can find online that carries moss is www.aquariummonsters.com.au and Java Moss at that.

Anyone's input who has experience with either moss would be appreciated.

LIGHTING

Ok, my current 3 foot tank has a standard 3 foot T8 fitting, which currently has a 30 watt fluro (some plant type.. can't remember atm).

I have been looking at putting more lights, probably at the rate of 2.5 wpg, as I wasn't planning on C02 injection for a while yet (I currently use the Sera CO2 tabs every second day in approx 120 litres).

My calc tell me that this means I should be aiming for 65 - 75 watts.

The price of aquarium light set ups seems rather pricey to me so I was thinking about getting a local lighting engineer to supply me. They said they can do me T5s in 549mm (the only ones that fit my 3 foot tank) at either 14 or 24 watts, which means I could get 3 x 24 watts (72 watts).

The real issue is that my west facing lounge room means my tank is currently sitting at 29-30 degrees atm (heater on 28 degrees), and that is with only one 30 watt T8 bulb. The engineer told me that the lamps run at 37 degrees, which I would imagine would heat my tank up even more.

I have seen some articles mentioning the installation of computer fans to help keep the lights cool. I'm not really familiar with the internal workings of a computer, but I was thinking you would have to attach the fans to some sort of power source - is this just a pc power source?

Also, the engineer mentioned getting a thermostat that would turn off some of the bulbs if it reached a certain level. Does anyone have any experience with this?

Obviously I could get a chiller, but it isn't really something that I wanted to spend money on if I could help it.

Help please!

ILLUSN
Tue Jan 30, 2007, 08:53 AM
How much moss would you like?
I can give you a fair bit, bout a tennisball size clump of java moss if you like pm me your address and i can post it up to you (or if your making a trip to syd you can pick up in person) as for your T5's go the 24w, a pc fan is easy to install all you do is cut a hole and screw it in and piggy back it to your ballast power supply wires, however the voltage is a problem, most pc fans are 12v DC not 240v AC do a google serch and see if you can find a 240v AC plug in fan, i know it's a bit more expensve but it's easier and simpler.

ikavia
Tue Jan 30, 2007, 09:11 AM
Just in case anyone who is reading this thread is interested in fans, here are some links I have found in Australia. I am awaiting info from Reef Octopus on prices and availability, but will post when I decide.

125mm fan with thermostat
http://www.reefoctopus.com/products.cfm?action=view&product=76&return=1

80mm fan with thermostat
http://www.reefoctopus.com/products.cfm?action=view&product=77&return=1

120 mm Sunon fan
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150mm high speed fan
Link Removed - Banned Commercial Entity

fish_r
Tue Jan 30, 2007, 10:07 AM
if u want to do it a lot cheaper than them fans
just get a "good" quality comp fan and use this as ur power source
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/45bf198c09274dc62743c0a87f9c0705/Product/View/M9647

php_admin
Wed Jan 31, 2007, 06:06 AM
For the record Christmas Moss is not an allowable import into Australia